Today on the show we are learning from Zoe Marshall. The founder and host of The Deep Podcast.
From terminal parents to sex workers, extremists and drug addicts, The Deep is a place for thought-provoking conversations that help us explore who we are, when no one is looking.
Cracked wide open by her past trauma, grief and abuse, Zoe holds the space for others to share their fascinating stories and perspectives through these deep conversations. I absolutely LOVED this episode, so much. We got down to the business model of how to monetise something thatās sensitive and sits almost in a taboo area. We also go through Zoeās key learning in creating the show and her advice if youāre creating something that can be seen as taboo or even controversial.
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The world of social media marketing and podcasting can often feel like two completely different universes. Social media thrives on engagement metrics, click-through rates, and ROI, while podcasting is all about capturing attention with the power of audio. While podcasts donāt offer instant click-throughs like social platforms, they offer something even more valuable: the undivided attention of your listeners. Imagine having 80,000 people genuinely interested in what you're saying. Thatās the power of an authentic podcast endorsement. When the content is woven seamlessly with ads, listeners barely notice, yet the message lands effectively.
However, selling podcast ads was tricky, especially for someone managing time constraints and competing priorities. Enter a moment of serendipityāTash from Word of Mouth Media came into the picture. After several meetings and almost signing with someone else, I found Tash. What started as a professional collaboration quickly grew into a friendship. With her business acumen and my storytelling approach, we started something entirely newāpodcast subscriptions.
The Birth of a Subscription Model
As a podcaster, Iād been thinking for a while about subscriptions, wondering why I hadnāt seen this model gain traction in my corner of the industry. After much reflection and outreach, I began exploring the idea seriously. Just as I was about to launch a subscription on Patreon, I got an unexpected message from Appleāa game-changing opportunity to launch an exclusive subscription with them.
This was a calculated risk, as going exclusive with Apple meant losing part of the audienceāthose on Android. But with a solid PR strategy and Appleās backing, I decided to take the leap. The result? We hit our monthly goal in just three days, and our annual target in six weeks. This success was not just financialāit was validation. Listeners trusted me enough to support the content I was pouring my heart and soul into.
One message in particular really struck me. A woman from rural Queensland shared that her husband had encouraged her to keep her subscription despite financial struggles, knowing how much it meant to her. This was more than just content; it was about connection and the value that listeners placed on something that resonated with them deeply.
Crafting a Subscription Worth Paying For
When launching a subscription, I knew it couldnāt just be about offering āad-freeā episodes. I wanted to create something truly special. Subscribers receive exclusive content thatās raw, unfiltered, and often deeply personalāthings Iāve never shared publicly, not even with close friends or family.
For example, I opened up about my experience with domestic violenceāsomething Iāve never talked about in-depth on the main podcast. It was crucial for me to share this with the people who trust me and who have been on this journey with me. Weāve created a āsecret societyā of sorts, where listeners can access conversations too explicit or personal for mainstream airing. This is what makes the subscription offering more than just ad-free content; itās a community where listeners can feel connected, challenged, and understood.
Staying Authentic in a Commercial World
Running a podcast is more than just hitting play and recording conversations. Itās about building a sustainable business, which can be a challenge without compromising on authenticity. This is why I partnered with Acast to help monetize the podcast while keeping the content true to its purpose. Not every episode is suitable for ads, and maintaining the integrity of sensitive stories is important. That balanceābetween being authentic and running a successful businessāis something I constantly strive for.
Advice for Aspiring Podcasters
If youāre thinking about starting a podcast, ask yourself: "Why?" Podcasting isnāt for everyone, and the space is saturated. If you're not deeply passionate, itās probably not worth pursuing. However, if you have something to say that you believe the world needs to hear, then go for it. But hereās my biggest piece of advice: retain ownership of your content. Donāt sell out to big production houses that might try to steer your content in a more commercial direction. Keep your creative control, even if it means making less money in the beginning.
The Importance of Connection and Impact
For me, everything comes down to connection. Whether itās connecting with my audience, with guests on the show, or with my team, fostering meaningful relationships is at the core of what I do. Impact is also a key factorāknowing that what Iām creating is making a difference in someoneās life is what keeps me going.
Looking back, one of the most exciting moments was seeing the podcast featured on Appleās banner. Weāve been in the top 25 worldwide and top 5 in Australia and New Zealand, but beyond the numbers, it's the stories of listeners who feel connected and inspired that matter most to me.
Lessons Learned: Trusting Strong Women
One of the greatest lessons Iāve learned in this journey is the power of surrounding yourself with strong, smart women. Every member of my team, from my accountant to my lawyer, is female. Itās intentional, and itās empowering to work with audacious women who believe in the same values.
In the end, my podcasting journey has been one of authenticity, risk, and building connections that matter. Itās not just about making moneyāitās about creating something that resonates on a deeper level, both with my audience and within myself.